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Discussion in 'GIMP for Mac' started by kham, Mar 20, 2008.

  1. Auria

    Auria Member

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    Hi,

    there is no need to be scared. Issues mentionned previously in this thread have mostly been solved and appear in our install manual : http://darwingimp.sourceforge.net/howto.html#inst1

    simply following the steps in the install tutorial should get it up and working. Furthermore, if this is a very new mac you might even have a mac OS X 10.5.2 disk, in this case it's even easier since you'll have everything already up to date
     
  2. Murray

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    First of all, thanks for all your help Auria.

    I am running Xquartz 2.1.4 because that's the only way I could get Inkscape to run reliably, so I will try downgrading to 2.1.2 and see if that fixes the problems. I'm not quite sure from the above messages whether you are advising users with Xquartz 2.1.2 to run the Tiger version or the Leopard version? Or should I simply try both and see which one runs?

    Thanks again for your dedication!

    (p.s. I've been digging and am even more confused regarding the difference (or similarity) between the apple X11.app, and Xquartz... it appears they are close relatives and not as disparate as I thought. The sooner Apple sorts this out, the better. As a Mac newbiw, everything else has worked like a dream, this is the first time I've had to get "down and dirty" with the details! For others interested in X11/apple/xquartz info, see here: http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/X11/index.html)
     
  3. Auria

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    Actually, installing the Tiger version on Leopard was recommended for those who were unable to re-install the combo update - that's for those who have the bug gimp-won't-open-when-double-clicked. If you get the bug crashes-when-i-paint then it's more the XQuartz 2.1.4 bug. Two unrelated bugs :)

    Also, someone who meets problems with XQuartz 2.1.4 should report them to the XQuartz team (I can't report as I don't have it ; if no one reports it may not ever get fixed)

    And yes, this is real pain, i might be repeating myself but in not se long we'll have a native version that runs without X11 and that is as easy to use as any normal mac app
     
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    Thanks again. I do have the "can't re-install-the-combo-update and gimp-won't-open-when-double-clicked" bugs :) so I will the Tiger version and then see what happens from there.

    If I get the "crashes-when-i-paint" bug I'll be sure to let the XQuartz guys know ;)
     
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    Hi,

    So I tried to update my copy of Gimpshop 2.2.11 which works fine to GIMP-2.4.5-2008-mar30 which copied to my applications folder and fails.  I tried upgrading X11 to the latest version for 10.4.11 as suggested in this forum.  Gimpshop opens X11 (X11 1.0 - XFree86 4.4.0) but when I try to run X11Update2006.dmg which should be the latest version of X11 I get the message that I am up to date and do not need to update.

    When I start Gimp.app I get the following error.

    HELIOST-2:/Applications/Gimp.app/Contents/MacOS johng$ /Applications/Gimp.app/Contents/MacOS/Gimp; exitdyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.1.dylib
      Referenced from: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.0.dylib
      Reason: image not found
    /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp: line 7:  4882 Trace/BPT trap          dbus-launch gimp-2.4 "$@"
    logout
    [Process completed]

    Sure enough using my find command for libXinerama.1.dylib it only finds this library file in the resources of Gimpshop and not /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.1.dylib.  So it seems I have an upto date copy of X11 in /usr/X11R6/lib/ but I do not know how to get GIMP-2.4.5 to work with it.  Any suggestions.  Do I have to do a Make to link Gimp
     
  6. Auria

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    you have an old X11, as stated on the downloads page you need at least X11 1.1.1
    install it from your OSX install disk then use Software Update, you won't find it on Apple's website
     
  7. DrTimecode

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    I'm not exactly a newbie... but this one's stumping me.

    I'm trying to install gimp 2.4.5 onto my iMac running 10.5.2.  My X11 is rolled back to XQuartz 2.1.2.  When I click on Gimp... I get a quick flash of it on the menu bar... but then nothing.  The console spits out this:

    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x15eeb0 of class NSPathStore2 autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x935270c7 0x9352eb1f 0x9352e61e 0x935330cb 0x1370b8e6 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x15f460 of class NSPathStore2 autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x935270c7 0x935261c9 0x93530642 0x935332a2 0x1370b8e6 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x160400 of class NSPathStore2 autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x935270c7 0x9352eb1f 0x9352e61e 0x9352e526 0x935345c8 0x1370b9fc 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x160110 of class NSBundle autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x1370b9fc 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x160640 of class NSCFArray autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x93557f61 0x93557f2a 0x1370bad2 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x160d60 of class NSPathStore2 autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x935270c7 0x935261c9 0x93530642 0x935304d2 0x935586ca 0x9355802f 0x93557f2a 0x1370bad2 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] LCC Scroll Enhancer loaded
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x162370 of class NSMachPort autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x935455d5 0x9356c4bf 0x13712702 0x137125bf 0x1370bb2e 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x107260 of class NSCFNumber autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x137131b2 0x13712766 0x137125bf 0x1370bb2e 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x107270 of class NSCFString autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x935a64ea 0x13712766 0x137125bf 0x1370bb2e 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x162d90 of class NSPathStore2 autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x935270c7 0x935353e5 0x13712782 0x137125bf 0x1370bb2e 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM Gimp[1086] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x15f890 of class NSCFData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
    Stack: (0x9361912f 0x93525ec2 0x9353a2a5 0x9354806a 0x93547f28 0x93547d45 0x1371279e 0x137125bf 0x1370bb2e 0x1370bb5b 0x92d19f97 0x92d1a2f6 0x93813c74 0x93805648 0x9380e7be 0x938115ab 0x918a5def 0x135f61be 0x135f9e41 0x135fa004 0x135e1c81 0x135e1f4b 0x135e1fe9 0x135d9a71 0x927da5cd 0x92d29513 0x2e46 0x2496 0x23bd)
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM [0x0-0x7c07c].org.gimp.Gimp[1086] /
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM [0x0-0x7c07c].org.gimp.Gimp[1086] Could not get password database information for UID of current process: Failed to get groups for username "drtimecode" primary GID 501: Unknown error: 0
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM [0x0-0x7c07c].org.gimp.Gimp[1086] Failed to start message bus: Memory allocation failure in message bus
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM [0x0-0x7c07c].org.gimp.Gimp[1086] EOF in dbus-launch reading address from bus daemon
    4/18/08 10:30:06 PM [0x0-0x7c07c].org.gimp.Gimp[1086] No matching processes belonging to you were found

    Any suggestions?

    thanks.
     
  8. Auria

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    DrTimecode: ok that one is not really a known/common problem... do you have anything installed with macports or in /usr/local, especially dbus? i think i've seen this error from people that had a conflincting dbugs installation somewhere else

    I have no clue about _NSAutoreleaseNoPool() messages, usually they're harmless - i would guess a XQuartz problem since gimp doesn't use cocoa
     
  9. DrTimecode

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    There I go, being the maverick again and coming up with something unique.

    Not that I know of... until I tried to install Gimp, frankly I'd never heard of x11 or macports.  (so I guess I'm more 'newbie' than I thought)  All the installs instructions seemed so clear, I didn't figure to have any other troubles.

    I do have Final Cut installed, and a few video editing utilities, would those conflict?  How do I find items that are installed using macports or in /usr/local?  thanks for the weekend assist!
     
  10. Auria

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    ok if you don't really know what they are it's unlikely you have them installed. But just to be sure :

    in the finder, choose "Go to folder" from the "Go" menu. There, type '/usr/local/bin' without the quotes. Once you're there, check if there is one called 'dbus' or something that starts with dbus. If it says the directory doesn't exist then you're fine. Then, do the same thing with path '/opt/local/bin'
     
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    For /usr/local/bin, the only thing is there is an app called 'ProTrancoderTool'... Not sure what that is but it could be part of Handbrake, a DVD ripping utility.

    For /opt/local/bin:  daemondo, port, portf (which is an alias) portindex, portmirror.
     
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    ok... i'm quite puzzled  :(

    if you don't need the XQuartz updates, it might be worth a try to re-install Apple's X11 from the install disk

    Another thing you might want to try is boot from the install disk, go in disk utility and try to repair your permissions from there

    one last idea : open script file Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp, and replace the following lines :
    Code:
    dbus-launch gimp-2.4 "$@"
    killall dbus-daemon
    with this :

    Code:
    gimp-2.4 "$@"
     
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    Guess I'll need a Unix Script editor for this.  Thanks, I'll tell you how it goes.
     
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    Any programmer's text editor will do... i personnaly like smultron. but probably TextEdit with rich text disabled (and it should be by default if you open a script file... i hope) can do it
     
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    And that's the fix that got it to work!!!  Thanks loads.  Can't wait to start working with it!
     
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      I have a new Mac on which I installed Server 10.5.0, then brought the system completely up to date (10.5.2). X11 is installed by default(version 2.1.1). When I try to run Gimp 2.4.5, I get the error reported here:

    4/22/08 7:34:07 PM [0x0-0x49049].org.gimp.Gimp[800]  Reason: Incompatible library version: libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib requires version 4.0.0 or later, but libXrandr.2.dylib provides version 3.0.0

        When I look at /usr/X11/lib, libXrandr.dylib, libXrandr-2.0.0.dylib, and libXrandr-2.1.0.dylib are all linked to libXrandr.2.dylib. In Gimp.app/Contents/resources/lib, libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib is linked to  libgtk-x11-2.0.0.1200.9.dylib. It is the same in both the tiger and leopard versions of gimp 2.4.5.
        It implies to me what it says, that the libraries are incompatible and this version of Gimp is incompatible with this version of Leopard. I don't understand why 2.4.5 for tiger might work as it uses the same gtk libs as 2.4.5 for leopard. I also don't understand where simply re-installing X11 would work unless it is a different version.
          So my final question. What version of Gimp works with what version of X11 on leopard 10.5.2?
     
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        Answered my own question. Downloaded latest X11 from Xquartz http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/xquartz , version 2.2.0.1, and installed. Installed Gimp 2.4.5 for  intel leopard. Everything looks good so far. Only problem, any Apple updates down the road may regress X11 and you have to re-install from Xquartz again.
        This was done on the system as described in previous post, no other changes needed.
     
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    Oh cool, XQuartz are now providing a full package, not only an update! This will probably make installing in leopard much easier
     

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