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  1. kham

    kham New Member

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    Hi everyone
    I just downloaded GIMP for the first time.  I just did my X11 install too.  I am not VERY experienced with these sorts of things, but I followed the directions closely.  After the X11 install, I went to the 10.5.2 combo install for leopard.  I downloaded all 342megs.  When I went to install it, I get an error saying
    You cannot install Mac OS X Update Combined on this volume.  This volume does not meet the requirements for this update.

    Now, I already have 10.5.2 when i look at the "ABOUT THIS MAC" screen. 

    Does anyone have an idea what my "problem" is?

    When I click the GIMP icon, it just closes, as the install instructions says it would.

    Thanks
    Matt
     
  2. Auria

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    Hi,

    I don't have a definite answer but here are a few possible things to try :

    * check the Console application in Applications/Utilities, after trying to install the combo update, to see if the installer left an error message there
    * boot from your install disk, launch disk utility from there and check and repair your disk and its permissions
    * Get your hands on a OS X 10.5.2 install DVD, and install X11 from there
    * Try our GIMP build for OS X 10.4; I don't think it's been tested but it might as well work  ;D

    good luck :) we really hope to get rid of X11 in not so long, to spare everyone all that crap...
     
  3. cyoungmann

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    I have encountered the same problem with trying to reinstall 10.5.2. So, I don't think this isolated. I have all of the 10.5 updates including the latest security update.

    I will try the suggested fixes, but I wanted people to know that this might be more wide spread.
     
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    same problem here..

    unfortunately i dont have the ability to reinstall from a disk..
     
  5. mztik

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    I am experiencing the same as well. The following is the only thing I know about the situation:

    According to an user (Andy Calado) at Apple.com Support Forums:

    Link: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jsp ... ID=6877738
     
  6. Auria

    Auria Member

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    Okay thanks

    But people please, you telling us it doesn't work does not help getting it fixed; I put a few suggestions above, instead of just reporting it doesn't work can you please try them out, especially the one about checking in Console, that takes like 10 seconds to do. Without your help I can't fix things alone - I'm not even on Leopard
     
  7. victor g.

    victor g. New Member

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    First part is the combo update barfing ( i am already running 10.5.2, but the gimp instructions say to redo the combo install, after installing x11 from the dvd....i have been running leopard since last week)

    Second part is gimp barfing.

    3/22/08 8:24:13 PM Installer[362] <ZeroSliderSplitView: 0x30c52100>: the delegate <TargetSelectPage: 0x30c4c3e0> was sent -splitView:resizeSubviewsWithOldSize: and left the subview frames in an inconsistent state:
    3/22/08 8:24:13 PM Installer[362] Split view bounds: {{0, 0}, {402, 104}}
    3/22/08 8:24:13 PM Installer[362]&nbsp; &nbsp; Subview frame: {{0, 0}, {0, 32}}
    3/22/08 8:24:13 PM Installer[362]&nbsp; &nbsp; Subview frame: {{0, 0}, {402, 104}}
    3/22/08 8:24:13 PM Installer[362] The outer edges of the subview frames are supposed to line up with the split view's bounds' edges. NSSplitView is working around the problem, perhaps at the cost of more redrawing. (This message is only logged once per NSSplitView.)
    3/22/08 8:25:55 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].org.gimp.Gimp[369] /
    3/22/08 8:25:55 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].org.gimp.Gimp[369] dyld: Library not loaded: /usr/X11/lib/libXrandr.2.dylib
    3/22/08 8:25:55 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].org.gimp.Gimp[369]&nbsp; Referenced from: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib
    3/22/08 8:25:55 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].org.gimp.Gimp[369]&nbsp; Reason: Incompatible library version: libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib requires version 4.0.0 or later, but libXrandr.2.dylib provides version 3.0.0
    3/22/08 8:25:55 PM [0x0-0x2a02a].org.gimp.Gimp[369] /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/gimp: line 6:&nbsp; 379 Trace/BPT trap&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; dbus-launch gimp-2.4 "$@"
     
  8. Auria

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    Okay the installer didn't say anything useful...

    can you possibly try other suggestions outline above? especially trying the GIMP build that is for OS X 10.4

    We could just get someone with a correct X11 to upload it somewhere, but we'd need to check licenses to make sure we're allowed to do that...
     
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    Yes that's known.

    One possibility would be to ask the XQuartz folks to provide a complete package, and not just an update.

    But meanwhile, can you try the other suggestions outlined above?


     
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    Just when I thought everything is working....when running the tiger version of gimp on leopard. I've found that holding down a mouse button with, say the paintbrush tool, will crash gimp.. 8O&nbsp; &nbsp;but a quick click seems stable :p
     
  13. victor g.

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    Sorry it's not the holding down of the mouse button, but rather the mouse move that causes the crash.


    this is the log from running gimp

    3/23/08 9:13:07 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] /
    3/23/08 9:13:08 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] GIMP-Warning: Bad interpreter referenced in interpreter file /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/interpreters/pygimp.interp: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/python2.5
    3/23/08 9:13:08 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] GIMP-Warning: Bad interpreter referenced in interpreter file /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/interpreters/pygimp.interp: /tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/bin/python2.5
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/py-slice.py", line 31, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-to-gradient.py", line 17, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-sort.py", line 17, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/palette-offset.py", line 17, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/happy-valley-relief.py", line 20, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/gimpcons.py", line 20, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] Traceback (most recent call last):
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/foggify.py", line 20, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] from gimpfu import *
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; File "/tmp/skl/Gimp.app/Contents/Resources/lib/gimp/2.0/python/gimpfu.py", line 74, in <module>
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; import gimp
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] ImportError: could not import pygtk
    3/23/08 9:13:09 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (gimp-2.4:847): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: gimp-2.4: gimp_wire_read(): error



    this is what the log adds after the crash

    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] The program 'gimp-2.4' received an X Window System error.
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] This probably reflects a bug in the program.
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'.
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; (Details: serial 60239 error_code 3 request_code 39 minor_code 0)
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837]&nbsp; &nbsp; backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)
    3/23/08 9:14:35 AM [0x0-0x31031].org.gimp.Gimp[837] (script-fu:860): LibGimpBase-WARNING **: script-fu: gimp_wire_read(): error
     
  14. Auria

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    Great&nbsp; ;D

    About your crashes : XQuartz 2.1.4 is crap, downgrade to 2.1.2 and you should be fine

    EDIT: I updated the install instructions and how-to, so hopefully now it work easily for everyone
     
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    Thanks a bunch!&nbsp; I installed this ontop of the 2.1.4 (dirty downgrading)

    http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/xqu ... i/X112.1.2

    and the tiger version of gimp works great on my leopard.&nbsp; (I noticed I had to launch it a couple of times after the first install)

    again,&nbsp; THANKS!
     
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    I had exactly the same issue when I did the X11 install and tried to reinstall the 10.5.2 Combo-Update.

    The problem was that I could not do the 10.5.2 Combo Update because that was the version I was already running.&nbsp; I had to do the Archive and Install process from the Install Discs.&nbsp; This loaded Mac OS 10.5.0 onto my Mac/Leopard.&nbsp; After that I could reinstall the 10.5.2 download from the Apple website.&nbsp; I downloaded Gimp and it opened up fine.

    I am a total newbie and Apple walked me through this or I would not have had a clue.

    Now I have a question on Gimp that I will put in another post.

    Mary
     
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    Glad it worked, but you probably went through a lot of unnecessary trouble - you could simply have installed our GIMP build for OS X 10.4 and it would most likely have worked (it's written in the guide http://darwingimp.sourceforge.net/guide ... l_leopard/, maybe you missed that part)
     
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    Wel . . .

    Regardless of all the 'possible fixes' I am still unable to install the Gimp on a vanilla 1.5.2 system with the latest X11 (4.1.2).

    The message in the crash log is very clear:
    Reason: Incompatible library version: libgtk-x11-2.0.0.dylib requires version 4.0.0 or later, but libXrandr.2.dylib provides version 3.0.0

    Can the build be updated so that no more users of a vanilla and fully updated Leopard install fail to install the Gimp?

    I mean, it clearly states:
    Gimp requires:
    - Intel CPU
    - MacOS 10.5.2
    - X11 upgraded to OS X 10.5.2 version

    And I have all that in place. So please complie the gtk thingie gainst libXrandr.2.dylib version 3.0.0

    Or tell me the secret of obtaining a vanilla X11 version with libXrandr.2.dylib version 4.0.0

    Cheers,

    Michiel
     
  19. Auria

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    Sorry, you currently cannot install GIMP on a vanilla install. The simple reason is that the X11 there is often too old to support GIMP correctly so it's not like it was our choice

    Anyway, the installation manual is clear enough and you should have no problem in getting GIMP to run on your computer.

    This will get easier once the native version is out, but until then we'll have to bear with the limitations of the tools we are using.

    PS: You do not have all requirements, the error message you show seems to indicate you've got the X11 version that comes with OS X 10.5.0. XQuartx 2.1.4 is something different, it doesn't contain the fixes we need and even introduces new problems. unfortunately Apple does not ship the X11 update through software update which is a real problem
     
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    Hi all,&nbsp; I have just bought my first mac.... all good and very exited.... as far as I can see all the things I need to run gimp are already on the machine.... but after reading all the comments, I am scared to download it as I'm not sure I'll be able to fix anything if it all turns to poo!!&nbsp; Should I be???
     

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